Me and some users from the Discord group ̶m̶o̶s̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶c̶e̶r̶t̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶c̶a̶ wanted to thank you for taking the time and effort to go around the wikia doing a splendid job! my 3 hearts can't come up with a way to thank you enough.
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I wanted to actually consult you about possibilities of new editors coming in a huge group this year, in case that happens to be true, say, if the carnival rythm brings good crowd for us, I wish to leave creation of pages for the new characters for new editors, this will serve as good training for them too
That being said, I wanted to consult Mod HRBM and Rollback Reborn in the case any new editor staff wishes a sandbox for themself, some self discovery and experiment will serve as good experience at losing their nervousness of ruining a page, letting them be comfortable with editing, considerably to the point they can make a beautiful profile page for themself, like yours and Ren for example, this will reduce load on you Admins in particular, and the mods too, besides new editors being considerable help to huge amount of pages too, possibly reducing the time taken to edit most of the pages.
Bottom Note: I would have taken this report to Admin Bystander first, but the thing is, Discord and his education focused life consumes most of his time, so I decided to bring this to you for consideration, and your fair opinions, I would prefer opinion of all Admin, but as of moment you are only active one.
I would be glad to discuss your ideas with you. Even though i don't believe we will get any major traffic soon, your consideration is actually quite thoughtul.~ Out of curiousity, would you like to discuss this here, on the forums, or on Discord?
P.S. Yeah, I understand the feeling of not wanting to bother someone whose busy, but if you feel that he should get on board too, then I suggest you message him when he comes around.
Shizaya Lover wrote:
Oh yeah, i didn't know what to name her because her picture was so wacky so i just type in what came to mind first. You can change it if you want to.
Well to be fair, it's a pretty on point name, I mean that is what it is, so it's not like the name is wrong, sometimes I am glad DSP is not much of an English guy, or they would be crying blood on seeing our threads and how we name their characters...I really hope I did not jinx anything.
First thing, first, we know that most reliable editors like the cap'n or Ren are over kill, and that is good, I mean, that is really good, problem is they are too good, in case they go missing, wiki sort of ...misses vital part, since others did not get a potential chance to grow, so I wanted to give the new editors a chance to add some stuff once in a while, as tiny goals/RPG quests system.
They are likely to make mistakes in early stage but with guidance of you and other experienced editors, their tiny mistakes can be easily corrected and they will get a vital opportunity to learn basics, it will atleast make sure they don't shy out of editing, and be competent enough when the main editors are not their, they will be able to add the new updates without an issue, by chance a major editor returns, he/she can simply refine the edit. This is plan 1 phase 1.
Sorry for the late response ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ Hmmm, I've been thinking over what you said, and I got some questions. What you mean by “misses vital part”? Do you mean that since most of the major stuff has been already edited in, their is almost no editing left for newbies and they have no way to grow? Also, By “tiny goals/ rpg quest system” are you suggesting something similar to the badge system the wiki has? Or maybe a small tutorial?
SPOT ON sempai! I wish to give them the taste of the badge system in a case they wish to be editor staff, (given, some fans would love to just enjoy the ambience of the Wikia, it's like a bar for fans to chill out at) the quests is already their, all I would need to do is give them the praise they deserve for even smallest efforts they put, because it matters a lot, a small detail maybe alone does not seem like a big deal but dozens of small details fixed by dozens blooming editors is a game changer, that would be an achievement for us all in the end, Sempai.
As for the "Vital Part" I mean, let's say Bystander, Ren and Reborn, me and you, we all are literally not here at same time, we are pretty much the vital organs when it comes to major editing in case new characters are released, but in our absence their NEEDS to be a vital editor who can take editing in their hands enough to make a whole basic page, (be it simple one, without the color schemes final version, so if new fans happen to come toward wiki in search for page about new characters they are not diassapointed in the least) you are also a bit right with the part of major stuff already has been edited in wiki, but that is not the issue, major issue is, You, Me, Ren, Reborn, and course Bystander, and us all going in the wiki "Zone".
I mean have you seen us when we go on editing spree? 😂 Something that would take days for new editors to do, we do finish it with in an hour almost like we went into an over drive XD.
Just for clarification because im still a little confused, “i wish to give them the taste of the badge system in a case they wish to be editor staff, (given, some fans would love to just enjoy the ambience of the Wikia, it's like a bar for fans to chill out at)the quests is already their, all I would need to do is give them the praise they deserve for even smallest efforts they put, because it matters a lot, a small detail maybe alone does not seem like a big deal but dozens of small details fixed by dozens blooming editors is a game changer, that would be an achievement for us all in the end, Sempai. “ So the idea is :
have something similar to the badge system - to act like a training area/system for newcomers
congratulate/praise new users for their work and as encouragement
Going back to your first post, you said you wanted to talk to the others if there was a situation that a newcomer wanted a sandbox for improvement. I dont think newcomers technically need permission to open their own sandbox. I forgot how i created mine, but i know its not difficult. Speaking of sandboxes, is this idea in a sandbox?
So I've been pondering this for a long while - how might a Sunahama page be curated?
A Sunahama page is, I believe, quite important. We have a fairly difficult thing to deal with since we cannot link to DSP's website, nor can we upload images. This becomes a jarring problem when we can't cite any images for particular comments (e.g how are we meant to tell people that But if we created a Sunahama page, perhaps we could create descriptions of images we currently do not host on the wiki and cite those images.
But I couldn't quite figure out how this information would be formatted. Perhaps as logs? But this would be a bad idea, I find. Then I noticed something; all of the images on DSP's site actually have specific numbers. If you open up the image in a new tab, they will come up with a specific number!
I drafted up a prototype design for the page on my sandbox. What we could do is list them in the order of their number. Making every single number a heading will allow each image to become a citation. For example, in my sandbox, I used Ivlis' personality section as a link. This gives us the potential to describe and allow easy access and reference to pictures, without breaking the image rules.
I think it could be a good idea. But it would require tons of effort for people to just look it up in the actual sunahama page. However it could be useful for saving up lognumbers, dates, and maybe (just maybe) some translations of important things.
We could also make use of what Code worm has taugth us "theres a template for that"
Thinking out something simple like... using tabs for months, maybe weeks?, (maybe im a bit to high who knows).
Tldr: im in but we need to add something useful to it.
What I was thinking of is documenting all of the stuff in one page, then just linking to specific parts of the page when needed. The wiki I referenced is in a similar boat to us; they can't just cite directly to the manga's first chpater, since that's illegal. So instead they've documented everything relevant and cite to the page whenever needed.
I don't know how having to get onto the Sunahama page would take a lot of effort at all. All you literally have to do is go to DSP's page, go to the Other section, click the log number listed for the particular image you're trying to search up, and find the picture that matches the description given. There's also really no problem with this.
I have my doubts of using a template, since I can't really think of any good reason to use one. For one - the information is simple. I find that it's also a bad idea, given what the template would be documenting. Images.
There are hundreds of images to be found in the Sunahama. Hundreds. I'd wager at the very least over 600. Let's say we made a template the size of the NewCharacter template for documenting the images. The NewCharacter template in its condensed form is made up of 197 characters, with nothing placed into its parameters.
Let's say we have 600 images we have to document using said template. 197 x 600 = 118, 200. So this would mean, in the source code, there would be bare minimum 118,200 characters in the source code. For reference, the amount of characters that makes up the source code of one of the biggest pages on the Wiki at the moment(Mogeko Castle game page), is 23,764. Even assuming that the theoretical template used for images would be half the size of the New Character template, we'd still be sitting at 59,100 characters. This character count doesn't factor in the characters of the parameters inserted, either.
I kinda get it now but when i said "it would take a lot of effort for people to just go to the sunamaha page" i was talking about the effort of the sunamaha pageyou want to make. not the effort of looking at sunahama.
And about the template i thougth about something simple to organize them. but, i cant think of anyghing to be honest
The Reficul wrote: I kinda get it now but when i said "it would take a lot of effort for people to just go to the sunamaha page" i was talking about the effort of the sunamaha pageyou want to make. not the effort of looking at sunahama.
Ah, my bad.
Hmm... It shouldn't be too much of a hassle, since it'd be easy to figure out. All you'd need to do is:
1. Find the image you want to reference, and open it in a new tab. This will give you the number of the picture.
2. Go to the Sunahama page.
3. Find the picture you're trying to use as a citation in the content dropbox, then click it. Copy the URL link.
4. Proceed how you would with normal citations.
There might be an even easier way to do it, but I don't know what it is.
Ah, I see where you’re going at. This would be a nice addition to the wiki since we don’t really have that much articles dedicated to DSP’s site. But i feel like this might be too time consuming for one person. Maybe the page could be worked on day by day. You’ll could work on one or two logs the first day, one log the second day, etc….or this is actually a group project. Idk just don’t over do it ok? ~(˘▾˘~)