Thread:A Bystander/@comment-28097343-20170318041359/@comment-25955276-20170319095404

HRBM wrote: And yet none of us would think that way if DSP had just given a simple explanation to everything, yes? The real question is 'has anyone even tried asking? 'It's not as if DSP keeps up to speed with the little actions of their fandom, and I don't know if anyone's asked them about it. I bet DSP doesn't even realize this is a problem. I mean, why would they? DSP has experienced a fair amount of disconnect after that tumblr drama a long time ago. Like you said, it's likely to be more of a lack of fan engagement if anything.

I'm not saying Higan isn't a hybrid; I mean, based on the information given, she is indeed a hybrid of angel and demon. But I'm not quick to jump to the conclusion that the section she is in is a section specifically for "hybrids." All we know is that she has her own section. It'd be silly to base the section off of solely Higan's traits - if we tried doing that with a section like the "ghost/undead"(the section with the ghost and skull symbol) a character like Noir would completely throw off the whole section. The blatant traits of the characters in that section seem to be based around ghosts and undead, and a character like Noir might feature such traits in a more nuanced fashion, but if we tried to guess that section based on Noir's design we'd draw completely different conclusions.

Another problem that I've been noticing is that we're starting to think of the character sections as "species" rather than "categories." Based on DSP's works thus far, Devils don't seem to be "born", rather they're made. Ivlis is said to be a "demon created from Siralos' flame", not  "a devil created from Siralos' flame." And, Reficul seems to have been a seraph prior to becoming a devil. So, based on this, devilism is not a birth trait.

This might be a bad example, but imagine this. We have two people who have extensive body tattoos(their entire body is covered in tattoos.) If they have a child, their chlid will not have any tattoos. Devilism is likable to the tattoos in this case; while (using Ivlis and Satanick as an example) Ivlis and Satanick might be devils, their devilism is not an inheritable trait, and their children will come out as demons. Same goes for Mors' situation, albeit more awkwardly seeing as his mother's a weird ass angel demon devil thing.

We don't call Igls Unth a God because she was born from Siralos, right? We also don't call Poemi and Adauchi devils even though they came from Ivlis.

We also shouldn't take Meikai's words too literally. I mean, Meikai refers to himself as the sea when he's talking to Wadanohara's egg. Even though... he isn't a body of salt water. There he's referring more to symbols if anything. Meikai seems to be saying, if anything, that Wadanohara's mother is associated with the moon, not actually some magic moon creature. Hell, Wadanohara's mother could be some moon witch for all we know!

Though, Minami is a little harder to explain. I'd argue that perhaps the "supernatural section" (pumpkin and star of david) is a category that you aren't really "born into", but you "transition" into. So, while Minami is technically a Shark-Witch hybrid, it still wouldn't be wrong to place him into the section he's in.

There's no inconsistencies; just '''unknowns. '''

While I do agree that we don't want a wiki that interprets things themselves excessively(look at where Lee got us! Bunch of fanons floating around that I can't even tell are fanon.) at the same time we don't want to be overly indecisive. Like, come '''on! Minami was so obviously the child of Wadanohara and Samekichi, '''but for months on end(even after the release of two banners that heavily suggested that he was their child) we still used very vague terms to describe him and his relationships. And, no one's gotten around to editing infoboxes that need to be edited for Minami's case, either. (If I have permission, I'd like to edit the boxes to reflect on Minami)

I'm not saying that we should just edit whatever pops up to our mind that seems to make sense, but we gotta scrutinize what we have and know and not be too afraid to add things that we can change later.

Tl;dr DSP is just bad at fan communication, some of their inconsistencies don't seem to be really inconsistencies, and it's okay to edit things with some freedom so long as we are prepared to change them later when new info presents itself.