Talk:Ivlis/@comment-37685812-20181201214510/@comment-37685812-20190101013438

@ Vrylinn

Sexuality, whether a person is gay, straight, bi or whatever, is the sexual attraction to a particular sex or gender. A person’s sexuality has nothing to do with a person wanting to wine and dine someone before seeing their naughty bits. That is an entirely separate category. By your logic a gay man cannot be considered gay for only getting gratification from watching gay porn because he never had a romantic relationship with another gay man. I strongly disagree with that.

My problem with Ivlis is that we are only told that he is SUPER gay and not shown that. Do we see bara mangas underneath his bed, is there a manga of Satanick taunting Ivlis about his internet search history, or a panel of Ivlis having wandering eyes for another man? No. All we get is that he has a questionable obsession with his father and creator Siralos, which Satanick promptly dismisses as a daddy fetish. Not to mention, the description of being SUPER gay with a few exceptions fits Satanick more than Ivlis because all we see is Satanick having relations with other men, minus the one wife.

Also about Ivlis affections to Siralos, I would hardly call his feelings towards him romantic. Especially after the implication of what I read in the Sun’s Curse. The entire story was Ivlis questioning his father about free will of those who live in the land of the sun. Then later we find out that Siralos has the power to alter the souls of his creations to make them have an affinity towards someone. So who is to say that Ivlis loves Siralos because Siralos created him to love him like the rest of his creations? Then that love became warped after Ivlis’ banishment.